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For false Christs and false prophets shall rise, and shall shew signs and wonders, to seduce,            
                                                                                                         if it were possible, even the elect.  Mr 13:22        

This site will examine the traditions and doctrines and practices of modern Christianity.

 It will not confine itself to the traditonal or the  charismatic, but wherever deviancy from scripture is promoted, whether by doctrine, tradition, or practice, or common sense.  While I do see that the traditional evangelical church is deeply rooted in errors brought on by tradition, compromise, the world, and the flesh, I am most concerned about the Third Wave movement among charismatics.  While the world and Christians seem to be becoming more aware of the deadness of many traditional evangelical churches and their attractiveness is waning, the Third Wave is growing rapidly and appealing to many.  Therefore, I will first focuse my attention on that group.

Too much of the critique of the Third Wave movement comes from those that reject that all the gifts for today.  Such a position fails to get at the heart of the deception and turns of many who have witnessed the legitimacy of the gifts when instigated by the Holy Spirit and not the flesh or wicked spirits.  While I do not believe that many of the Third Wave manifestations exhibit  a true Holy Spirit gift, I do believe that the Holy Spirit has all the gifts He always did and the body of Christ is not a different body now, than what it was in the first century.  

  • Seek the indwelling God witin you
  • Little gods
  • Worship
  • Emotion verifies worship?
  • Worship as warfare technique?
  • Singing is worship?
  • Binding and loosing
  • Territorial Spirits
  • Soaking/meditation
  • Dwelling in the glory
  • Emotions
  • Drunkeness in the Spirit
  • Dream with God
  • Bridal theology

Much to the dismay of non-charismatics, I am referencing a portion of a prophecy that was given in 1965 regarding the end time.  I believe that it helps us understand and identify the errors of today.  The prophecy will not be used to prove the errors, only scripture will, but the prophecy points us in the right direction, I believe.  The original had no text emphasized

I warn you to search the Scriptures diligently concerning these last days. For the things that are written shall indeed be made manifest. There shall come deceivers among My people in increasing numbers, who shall speak forth the truth and shall gain the favour of the people. For the people shall examine the Scriptures and say, ‘What these men say is true’. Then when they have gained the hearts of the people, then and then only shall they bring out their wrong doctrines. Therefore I say that you should not give your hearts to men, nor hold people’s persons in admiration or adulation. For by these very persons Satan shall gain entry into My people. Watch for seducers! Do you think a seducer will brandish a heresy and flaunt it before the people? He will speak words of righteousness and truth and will appear as a minister of light, declaring the Word. The people’s hearts shall be won. Then when the hearts are won, they will bring out their doctrines and the people shall be deceived. The people shall say ‘Did he not speak thus and thus’? ‘And did we not examine it from the Word’? ‘Therefore he is a minister of righteousness. This that he has now spoken we do not see in the Word but it must be right, for the other things he spoke were true’.

Be not deceived. For the deceiver will first work to gain the hearts of many, and then shall bring forth his insidious doctrines. You can not discern those who are of Me and those who are not of Me when they start to preach. But seek Me constantly, and when these doctrines are brought out you shall have a witness in your heart that these are not of Me. Fear not, for I have warned you. It is possible that the very elect may be deceived. But it is not possible if you walk in holiness and uprightness before the Lord, for then your eyes shall be open and the Lord will protect you. If you will constantly look unto the Lord you will know when the doctrine changes, and will not be brought into it. If your heart is right I will keep you, if you will look constantly to Me I will uphold you.

The teachings and practices of the following will be first addressed.
    • Third Wave
      • The general teachings and redefinition of key words of Christianity
      • Bill Johnson
        • I chose Bill Johnson because I like listening to him, think he has much truth to say, and it is very easy not to discern the poison within his messages.  It only takes a very small portion of poison to be fatal though all of the food it infects is totally good.  The others ministers that he associates with usually have far more telling errors, but it is Bill's teaching that bridges those errors and tends to bring them into acceptability.
        • It is his preoccupation with new revelations and power and emotions that trips him up.  Everything supernatural he seems to consider as from the Holy Spirit.
      • Graham Cooke
        • Like Bill Johnson, he is easy to listen to and brings forth much truth.  He reveals more errors than Bill does, but they have a very similar message and ministry style.  Unmasking these two will provide keys that will expose the extreme errors of the Third Wave as even more extreme that imagined.
    • Ken Nair
      • Not a very big influence, but a brother was very excited about him and was telling everyone to heed him and I checked him out.  He is mainly an influence on the non charismatic crowd, and most specifically on the followers of Bill Gothard.  His focus is marriage ministry and he says some of the most dangerous and anti bilblical statements regarding marriage and women and wives I have ever heard.  So, I am including that on this site. 
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